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  • Ginger

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    July 5, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    So we ‘solved’ the fragment, and passed the assessment. Now we have a key and a burned Book of Briars.

    On top of that we have some random other info that hasn’t yet made clear it’s significance ie. The Roman numerals.

    Also this Fletcher person wanting to help us.

    Did I miss anything?

    So where do we start Mounties?

    My first thought would be to see if the Book can be repaired or if it is a spell like many have theorized, finding a way to see if the magiq is still intact and if we can still use it?

    Or investigate this Fletcher Dawson person and see if they can aid us at all?

    I’m not sure, just wanted to get some discussion rolling.

    • Rimor

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      July 5, 2017 at 7:02 pm

      It’s going to be hard to find this Fletcher Dawson guy as the contact section on his site doesn’t work. Most of my searches for him have pulled up nothing either. Who ever he is he really doesn’t want to be found. Is it possible to ask Deidre or Sumners is they know anything?

      Link to his site: Landing | Fletcher Dawson

  • Ashburn

    Member
    July 5, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Copied from the other thread:

    Just for something that could be productive (or pointless poking around), I started looking at the numbers as years and if anything possibly linked back to the clues or cities.

    Nothing yet, but three of the four even years on there are leap years, and two of the animals in the picture are known for leaping, so maybe that’s a thing?

  • Rimor

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    July 5, 2017 at 7:14 pm

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  • Tinker

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    July 5, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    Also copying from the other thread: the roman numerals on the image correspond to

    1324, 1376, 1409, 1413

    1416, 1627, 1647, 1654

  • EliseCeri

    Member
    July 5, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    I don’t know if this is significant but i found a tumblr:

  • Nimueh

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    July 5, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    So great to help out on my first assessment, but I’m left wondering; why is the compass under “future works”? What significance do the animals have? I remember reading that you guys have had something similar before with the numbers (I can’t remember when it was), but why there numbers and what is their importance?

    Sorry, I don’t like unanswered questions…

  • Devi

    Member
    July 5, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    I’ve got a question that I guess is mainly aimed at the people who’ve been around here for a while. (Honestly it’s probably not the most important thing right now but eh.) The catterpillow story file is labelled “The Ant and the Catterpillow BETHANY”. Has “BETHANY” come up before? (I tried searching the forums and the Basecamp main website and didn’t see it, but I easily could have missed something.)

    • EliseCeri

      Member
      July 6, 2017 at 11:30 am

      YES, I was really wondering that too. If I were to save a file, and use the name ‘Bethany’ in the process, I’m sure Bethany would be important in my life. Maybe Dawson had a daughter, to whom the book was written for called Bethany?

    • Ashburn

      Member
      July 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm

      On this new set of pages or one of the earlier sets? For me, the new pages are just 5-6.pdf when I download them.

      Unless this is one of those different-on-a-computer things…

  • Augustus_Octavian

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    July 5, 2017 at 11:55 pm

    Full Tinfoil Hat Time:

    I guess my question would be: How does Fletcher Dawson know about the Book of Briars’ Assessments, specifically if the Storm has wiped out anyone who had tried to open it in the past? Also, how did he know that we, as a group, have met the third assessment, or rather, why is the third assessment housed off-site, where the other two were in the Magiq Guide?

    Super crazy theory: Could Fletcher Dawson be the author of the Book of Briars? Have we been his “Future Work” all along?

  • Huxley

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    July 6, 2017 at 1:03 am

    I don’t know if this is repeating something that has previously happened, but maybe there’s a spell we could use on the book? Alternatively, I’m thinking maybe there’s something that if we can find and put into the URL could fix the book? Because the Aorthora page still works, so maybe there’s another that we haven’t found yet?

  • EliseCeri

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    July 6, 2017 at 11:56 am

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  • EliseCeri

    Member
    July 6, 2017 at 11:59 am

    Never mind that post ^ I did the whole, misreading information thing again!

  • EliseCeri

    Member
    July 6, 2017 at 1:03 pm

    I think it changes when downloaded, but if you look on the new pages on the actual website before downloading them, you should see the title with Bethany on!

    • Ashburn

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      July 6, 2017 at 1:33 pm

      Phone doesn’t let me view before downloading, guess I’ll have to check it out next time I’m behind a desk. :+1:

  • Brit

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    July 6, 2017 at 11:12 pm

    Does anyone think that the movement of the animals night mean something? Like there arw accent lines clearly drawn for one bird going up, another down, the stag/deer to the right and the rabbit to the left…the fox or wolf doesn’t appear to have any movement lines

  • Brit

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    July 6, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Also the key…a key is meant to unlock things right? Perhaps it is a key to the writing or perhaps the animal pic or even the compass… can someone who’s tech savvy place the key on all of those and see if the holes match up to anything significant? A compass is meant to lead the way a key is meant to unlock…so maybe trying it on the compass? Might not lead to any where but what harm could it hurt?

    • Rimor

      Member
      July 6, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      I asked about the key in the other thread and apparently it’s supposed to unlock the book or briar. Only problem is is that the book is currently out of action

      • Huxley

        Member
        July 7, 2017 at 12:21 am

        Do we know anything about how to fix the book?

  • Samii_Coz

    Member
    July 7, 2017 at 12:48 am

    What if “Bethany” to do with the place? There’s the city in the New Testement that was supposed to be the home of Mary, Martha, and Lazarus. There’s a whole section on the etymology of “Bethany”. Could the numbers be references to a sections a book like it appears in this?

  • Samii_Coz

    Member
    July 7, 2017 at 3:06 am

    Did the image on the original page of http://www.fletcherdawson.com catch anyones eye? I thought it looked familiar so I did a reverse image search on it and came up with this. The first one is the site. The second one is what the search came up with. Am I the only one that thinks they look an awful lot like keys?

    I followed the image back to a site and ended up here. “if this sign is carried, one will never lose one’s way in storms or bad weather, even when the way is not known”

    • Brit

      Member
      July 7, 2017 at 3:17 am

      Brilliant! So this is meant to guide us through the storm!! And hopefully restore the book if briars!!!

      • Samii_Coz

        Member
        July 7, 2017 at 3:20 am

        I tried adding “vegvísir” to the end of the book and Fletcher’s site and no luck :confused:

    • Rimor

      Member
      July 7, 2017 at 9:14 am

      Ye I found this out on the other thread

      We reckon it will help us weather the “storm”.

      • Devi

        Member
        July 7, 2017 at 10:38 pm

        I feel like it’s significant that it’s not identical to a vegvisir though, since the vertical line is missing. If a compass is missing cardinal directions, can we still use it to navigate? (Though I don’t think Fletcher Dawson is malicious or anything like that, at worst I worry we may be misled following a “broken compass”.) Maybe we’re on the right path, but we’re still missing something vital before we can “weather the storm”.

        (Sorry if this isn’t in the right place I wasn’t quite sure if a new thread was actually being made or not.)

        • Augustus_Octavian

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          July 7, 2017 at 11:19 pm

          The Joradian Non-Material Safeguard is based on Jorad’s Nordic Hearth and Home Protectory – given they both have Scandanavian origins, it stands to reason that similar sigil-work would be present in the symbolic representation of the spell. They were both developed by ancient Viking seidr practitioners, if not each by old Jorad himself.

  • Tinker

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    July 7, 2017 at 4:57 am

    If it is keys, maybe something will pop up soon…there would be three keys on the image, and I’m guessing we got one key for each assessment if we got one this time…I can’t say I have any idea what to do at the moment, but I’m interested to see what comes of this…

  • Rimor

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    July 7, 2017 at 9:51 am

    On the first page of the site it says “You must find the four enchanted items Fletcher Dawson has hidden in cities around the world”. Are these enchanted items the sword, shield, helmet and breastplate or are they the four items we found on his site?

    • Augustus_Octavian

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      July 7, 2017 at 10:19 am

      I think Galifanx (shield), Gladitor (sword), Durkonos (helmet), and Aorthora (armor) were the enchanted items we had to find to unlock the page.

  • EliseCeri

    Member
    July 7, 2017 at 10:33 am

    Just thinking out loud here:

    Do any of you think it could be significant that in ‘future works’, it only shows half of the chronocompass? Maybe his future work is to do with only the top half?

    • Rimor

      Member
      July 7, 2017 at 10:38 am

      But it shows a full image when you open it. Are you sure it’s not just a display error?

      • EliseCeri

        Member
        July 7, 2017 at 10:38 am

        Yeah it may well be a display error! It’s just another strain of thought i guess!

        • Rimor

          Member
          July 7, 2017 at 10:40 am

          Dawn of the future? Like you said it only shows the top half and the top half could be a sun rise. As it’s under future work then you could say it’s the dawn of the future. This totally tinfoil hat stuff but there might be something there

  • Leigha

    Member
    July 7, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    Guys, maybe we should move all Fletcher Dawson discussion back over to the Fletcher Dawson thread?

    • Rimor

      Member
      July 7, 2017 at 12:55 pm

      Or make a separate thread for him as the other thread was about the third assessment and this thread is for discussing everything we found

  • Huxley

    Member
    July 7, 2017 at 11:25 pm

    So this symbol might help us get through the storm- either protecting us or fixing the book somehow. Maybe there’s some way to combine it with something else we already have to show us where to go next? If it is like a compass. Maybe the missing line being added would have some effect? (I have no idea what use any of these ideas would be, just want to put them out there)

    • Augustus_Octavian

      Member
      July 7, 2017 at 11:31 pm

      I think they are only loosely related. Fun fact: The Icelandic musician Björk has Vegvisir tattooed on her person! Feel free to use it in a similar personal manner, but I don’t think it is what we’re looking for to weather the Storm as a group or restore the Book of Briars.

  • Ashburn

    Member
    July 8, 2017 at 3:03 am

    With the vegvisir-esque symbol and it only having six prongs instead of eight: maybe it’s six prongs for the six guilds.

    • Augustus_Octavian

      Member
      July 8, 2017 at 10:28 am

      More likely the six elements (light, aether, ore, tides, thought and wild). Each guild is represented by an element, but since we don’t really know exactly how old the guilds are, it would lead to a “chicken or egg” argument.

      I think the elements predate the guilds as we know them, given Ted Fallon wrote that the ancient Etruscan archway Kemetic Solutions was using to try to open an “emergent” gateway had symbols of the six elements on it. These have probably been used by variety of cultures in maqiq since antiquity, like with Jorad’s use.

      • Ginger

        Member
        July 8, 2017 at 6:40 pm

        For me, when looking at Vegvisir and what it means, I pulled into the direction of thought that leads me to believe it’s protection for that site.

        Like how we did a spell to protect the forums, along those lines. Which would explain why it’s not a perfect replica and would fit your thought about the elements, because that would have helped focus the Magiq.

        So maybe it’s not something specific for us or maybe it is, or maybe it serves more than one person. Who ever knows anymore?

        Thought I’d give my two cents. Do with it what you will. I also like the other theories tossed around so don’t stop on account of mine.

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