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SOLVED: Constellations Fragments Nine-Twelve
Continuing the discussion from FOUND: Fragment Twelve: Into Hell – Aorthora:
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@Revenir is this how you do it??? Never had to do this before
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It’s perfect!
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Well … lots has happened
Thought I’d post this here …
So the book is burned.
There’s uncertainty as to whether we can unlock the next part of The Book while it’s in this state.
SOOOOOO
How do we repair The Book of Briars? Where do we start?
Can the Book even be repaired?
Do we need to repair it? We created and effectively did Magiq today. Loads of us thought the Book was a spell this whole time. Can we discover that Spell without it?
Lots of thoughts after today.
I would also like to point out that, yes, the Storm came and destroyed part of the Book and we don’t know if all our friends are even alive and KS is probable long gone, BUT despite all that, we’re still here.
The Storm came and wiped out the ’94 Mounties. Augie and Augernon were the only remnants. They were done.
We are all still here. All of us Mounties. I think that’s what the Ocular Eye was saying when it told us we were the strongest group yet.
We chose Hope with the Eye, Mounties, not Despair. Don’t forget that. Never give up.
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I gave the live stream another listen last night, and something doesn’t sit well with me:. Why was Martin yelling at Aether at the end, and sounding pretty angry? It leads me to believe Aether did something brave and foolish. It also makes me wonder which side of the veil he ended up on – our’s or the Council’s. I think Portentia, Climber/Alison and Martin probably all crossed, I’m not so sure about @Aether.
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If Aether made copies of all the data, maybe he copied himself. If we could find the data, we have a chance at finding him and the rest
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I think you’re right. I got the impression Marty was yelling at Aether because Aether was trying to do something to hold Teddy and/or the storm back so the others could escape.
The last fragment appeared right at the time Marty yelled ‘Jeremy’ (Aether’s real name). Maybe Aether escaped into the computers at the last second. Don’t know.
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It probably isn’t relavent but the book of briars appears more wind torn to me then burned…like worn away by sand as opposed to burnt edges…
And I agree…I wonder where everyone ended up…I hope we hear something soon…
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Has anyone reversed the Audio?
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Yes, and @Revenir was kind enough to post a transcript here:
FOUND: Fragment Twelve: Into Hell – Aorthora – #327 by Revenir
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I’ve been thinking about these constellations. They don’t match any in our world (even from other cultures, like “dark cloud constellations”), so I’m assuming they are in the sky on the other side of the veil. Do we have any maps or pictures to reference from previous fragments?
I tried matching them to the stars on the left side of this page, but nothing jumped out at me:
Any other thoughts?
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As far as I’m aware, nothing with constellations or maps in the last two assessments. The animal fragments from the second assessment did seem to have a bit of a cosmicky background, but that’s about all I can think of.
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I’ve been thinking about the names of the constellations both because I can’t think of any other leads at the moment and also because I need something to work on to cope with everything that has happened.
So the only thing I can come up with for Galifanx is it’s possible connection to the prefix meaning “rooster” which is also “gali” and we have established this before with Galluskulk.
Gladitor seems fairly self-explanatory. Gladitor sounds a lot like “gladiator” and the constellation looks like a sword. Easy enough.
Durkonos was interesting. Dur can mean firm or stable as in “durable” but “durko” is also a Czech name meaning farmer. “Nos” typically has to do with knowledge as is “know” or “gnosis”. To me the constellation looks like a sunrise over a mountain so perhaps it’s a constellation about or important to farming?
Authora is another tricky one. “Au” tends to mean “to yourself” as in “auto” and “thora” relates to the body. Also if you squint and don’t try too hard you could say it looks kind of like a person? So maybe it’s a constellation of a person. Or something.
I might be going crazy.
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The most recent one reminds me of “aorta,” the main channel of blood from the heart to the body.
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It sort of looks like one as well. And that would relate to the bodily meaning of thora.
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So a rooster…a farm or sun rising…a fighter…and oneself…
At the sign of a Rooster, a rising sun, a fighter will rise/show oneself? At least that’s where my mind went…also interesting side note it is the year of the rooster this year…
Could the number of “stars” mean anything? (5, 6, 6, 6)
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Aothora looks like the middle part of Cancer (or maybe even Hercules) to me.
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Perhaps each constellation is associated with the animal and plant from their respective order in their phase? Like maybe the fraylilly is typically associated with the creature Brachursis and the constellation Galifanx, Eye-of-the-moons with Galluskulk and the constellation Gladitor, and so on?
It could be that in order to assemble the book or find the next fragment, we need to look at all of the past phases as a whole narrative and not as separate or disconnected chapters.
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So (I wasn’t around, more veteran voices can correct me), for the first key, the fragment was scraps of paper which were pieced to make a recipe. For the second key, the fragments were tiles that fit together in a certain configuration to make the Tetrahedron. This third key are constellations – how do constellations fit together? Contiguous portions of sky? A way to navigate to a destination? To ascribe personality traits to people born in different months of the year? How else are constellations used?
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Constellations are primarily storytelling, specifically mythology. Every constellation we know in our realm has a mythological story attached to it. Of course we don’t know what stories might be attached to these.
Just as we began the constellation fragments we started an exploration of the constellations on the Basecamp logo. I don’t know if it has anything to do with these constellations, and we never really got anywhere with it, but it’s here The New Logo if anyone wants to have a look.
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I’ve been wondering if these constellations either
a) fit together to make a new single constellation, or
b) create a path/pattern in the sky leading to a final answer
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I’ve googled I’ve rearanged, I’ve puzzled but it’s got me stumped… the only thing I can think of is if there’s a page of the brias and the points of the star would need to be pressed in a specific order or something but until we can fix the book…
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The other fragments fit together outside of the book.I can’t help but believe these do, too.
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We’ll all keep poking at it
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What if these constellations are parts of real ones?
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Fairly certain there isn’t one that looks like Durkonos or even has a bit that looks like it.
There are 88 constellations in our sky, btw.
http://naasbeginners.co.uk/AbsoluteBeginners/Night_sky.htm
We don’t seem to have a reference point for them right now. They’re beyond the veil, or something lost, or…
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Durkonos looks like Cassiopeia if you take away the arch…well kind of lol
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Actually, I thought that too.
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Holy crap, Sky, that’s an amazing find!
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@Skylad this is brilliant!
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What @Leigha said really resonated with me. Even if it’s not the answer to joining the fragments together, why don’t we tell each other myths about these new constellations over at the campfire?
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Did anyone get anything from watching the video frame by frame?
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We found Aothora
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Haha oh yeah! Sorry I’m just anxious to hear something…to do something
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Do we have any real actionable items at the moment?
I am super anxious with how everything has gone.
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Nothing we’re aware of, no. Unless there’s a task out there we have yet to notice. That’s happened from time to time, but so far we’re just recovering and waiting with baited breath for Marty and co.
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So, generally speaking, now would be the time to take the magimystical assessment for the third lock. I can’t remember the time periods offhand, but usually after a couple weeks the book would send us an email about an assessment and then that’s what we’d do.
But…Well, the book’s mostly destroyed. So now there’s a question of if we can even do an assessment without the book.
There may be something we can do with the constellations. With the first lock, we had to assemble the paper scraps to complete the exam. And with the second, we had to assemble the correct translation to complete the exam. It may be that we have to assemble the constellations in some way or find a connection with them in order to proceed.
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Well… The book isn’t necessarily destroyed we still have Magiq.guide right?
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You’re absolutely right, but it’s mostly destroyed or otherwise out of commission. There’s a question of how much power the Book has left and my guess is, at the moment, not much.
I don’t mean that we’re done for good or anything, just that things are different this time around. We may need to take steps to repair the book or do the exam without it’s help, rather than waiting for the book to email us and guide us along the path, so to speak.
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Are we sure 100% sure they’re constellations?
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Now that you say it, I guess not. I’m not sure what else they could be, though.
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The dots…the lines…it reminds me of a connect the dots puzzles I would do as a child…you know the ones that made a picture?
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That’s all that constellations are
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Yes but constellations once the dots are connected don’t really depict anything…they just look like lines connected by random stars for a constellation to look like what its actually meant to look like you have to squint and make believe…where as with a connect the dots you follow the numbers connecting the dots in order and by the end of it an actual picture is formed…they don’t look like a Rembrandt by any means but with a connect the dots a flower clearly looks like a flower and with a constellations connectivity it’s more like a Picasso you have to squint at, upside down before you can reluctantly claim that you “kind of know what’s it’s supposed to be”
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To be honest it was your using pictures depicted in the magiq guide that made me think that maybe they’re supposed to join together to form an actual picture as opposed to a random constellation lol
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Hahah my connection to the magiq guide is very much Picasso
I think maybe there’s one more page to be added or changed so my theory works, so just waiting till the end of the week to see if the magiq guide gets a bit of a facelift
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I mean, we have no idea how far into the future Port went and we have no clue if Marty and Aether went through. So we kinda need to be patient.
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What if the picture fragments changed?
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Maybe we could do a spell to somehow recharge the book?
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With everything that’s happened right as I got here, this seemed like the best place to try and poke around, see if I could be of any help (I’m a sucker for astronomy). This is going to end up being a bit of a brain-dump, so I apologize in advance if it gets long-winded (especially if it doesn’t lead anywhere).
Looking at these four constellations and the six on the new logo, it felt like they might be pieces to a larger constellation. (I’m sure someone mentioned it in the thread already)
Could also be pieces of several constellations, I know that some of the ones being compared in a thread re: the logo constellations are all part of the Hercules family of constellations.
Going through a bunch of them, I noticed that if Galifanx is turned over, it looks like Centarus’ head (in the Hercules family).
Unfortunately, I don’t have access to Photoshop or similar. Maybe someone else could see if any of the other three fragment constellations or the six logo ones match up? It looked like the fifth going left to right on the logo might.
Gladitor reminds me of the symbol for Saturn. I did some digging into mythology (going from Roman to Greek since I’m a little more familiar with that set of names), and his symbol is a scythe/sickle/harpe; the harpe looks (with some creative license) like it could be Gladitor.
The bottom part of Durkonos reminds me of Cassiopeia or Lacerta (which is sometimes depicted as a smaller Cassiopeia with more squiggles off the end).
Aothora looks kind of like Crater but not quite.
And for now, I am spent.
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12 tasks of Hercules…
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We are SOL right now. We’re coming up blank. We need one, solid, concrete place to start from. If there’s anywhere left to start from.
I’m guessing everyone else is like me, checking in to see if we’ve had any contact from Marty or the others and going again.
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We really do need to figure out if everyone’s safe and what out next steps are.
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Big big think:
Gladius is an ancient Roman sword.
Konos is an Ancient Greek Helmet (Durkonos)
Phalanx is a military defensive formation, used by the ancient Gauls (galifanx)
Any advances with these?
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I can’t think of anything offhand, but maybe we should take a look at the ninth fragment? It’s the only one that really dealt with constellations, and I remember there was a mythology aspect.
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I’ve not nothing either sorry MissEvans… But it’s a bit funny how we all can find a rule that works for three of them but not all of them.
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Phalanx is also an Ancient Greek military technique.
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The aorta is the main blood vessel from the heart to the rest of the body and travels through the thorax (aorthora). It’s commonly injured by Konos wearing/Gladius weilding soldiers in phalanx formation?
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That works pretty well together.
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Phalanx is also part of your fingers and toes if we’re talking parts of the body
gladioli is part of a breastbone
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I like where you’re going with this, however, the Aorta is one of the most well-protected arteries in the human body. If memory serves, after the aortic arch, where the brachial arteries branch off, it follows the spine down towards the lower extremities, with various arteries breaking off to bring fresh blood to other body parts as needed, before splitting into the iliac arteries. It would be very hard to injure with a gladius. One would need to almost sever the spinal cord to get to it from the dorsal side or carve through all of the internal organs on the ventral side. (Sorry for the rather gruesome image… but you get the point.)
So basically, assuming I understand this correctly, we have a military formation or strategy, a sword, a helm, and something referring to oneself. Could this be more figurative than literal? Is this a message telling us we need to gear up for a war? It almost seems to me like it’s telling us to prepare. Think about it. If you’re an ancient Greek or Roman soldier what are the things you absolutely need to go to battle? A plan, a weapon, and something to protect your body (helm), and your presence.
Thoughts?
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Oh, and I’m basically grasping at straws at this point. Does anyone else have any new intel to share?
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Galifanx frag 9 
Gladitor frag 10 
Durkonos frag 11 
I think maybe there’s one more page to be added or changed so my theory works, so just waiting till the end of the week to see if the magiq guide gets a bit of a facelift 
